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H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H # WHY DID THE AFGHAN CAMEL CROSS THE ROAD?TRAPPED?//UPGRADEmag// nov 6 2001 The UPGRADEmag (the Upgrade Emag, or just the "UP") is a global edutainment news round-up, ‘broadcast’ weekly to =[10,593]= Trance// New Age// Alternative// Activist// Zippy folks who have been recommended to the Parallel YOUniversity//Megatripolis Dance Dept as "showing signs of life". Since many recipients choose to forward it to their own lists, we estimate 27,000+ recipients. Further, because of its less 'specialist' content, it's increasingly being posted on a variety of sites worldwide, making a total weekly ‘readership’ of 275,000+ H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H MAKE THE UPGRADE FIT YOUR SCREEN BY CLOSING ANY BOX ON LEFT Carl Jung: The confluence of events in the cultural gestalt necessitated that individual camels cross roads at this historical juncture, and therefore synchronicitously brought such occurrences into being.. as the world's tears for american
dead evaporate 1. with every innocent afghan's pointless slaughter and as winter, ramadan, christmas, an economic crash and a new bigger wave of terrorism rush upon us, it's time to raise our view and ask at least 2 questions: HAS BUSH TRAPPED AMERICA 1. IN A "WAR" WHEN IT'S REALLY ONLY AN "EMERGENCY"? 2. IN VIETNAM WAR 2001? ############################ HAS BUSH TRAPPED AMERICA IN A "WAR" WHEN IT'S REALLY ONLY AN EMERGENCY? Sir Michael Howard, the eminent historian When, in the immediate aftermath of the attack on the World Trade Center, the American Secretary of State Colin Powell declared that America was 'at war', he made a very natural but a terrible and irrevocable error which leaders of the Administration have been trying to put it right ever since. What he said made sense if one uses the term 'war' in the sense of a war against crime or against drug-trafficking: that is, the mobilisation of all available resources against a dangerous anti-social activity; one that can never be entirely eliminated but can be reduced to, and kept at, a level that does not threaten social stability. The British in their time have fought many such 'wars'; in Palestine, in Ireland, in Cyprus and in Malaya, to mention only a few. But we never called them 'wars': we called them 'emergencies'. This meant that the police and intelligence services were provided with exceptional powers, and were reinforced where necessary by the armed forces, but all continued to operate within a peacetime framework of civil authority. If force had to be used, it was at a minimal level and so far as possible did not interrupt the normal tenor of civil life. The object was to isolate the terrorists from the rest of the community, and to cut them off from external sources of supply. They were not dignified with the status of belligerents: they were criminals, to be regarded as such by the general public and treated as such by the authorities. To 'declare war' on terrorists, or even more illiterately, on 'terrorism' is at once to accord them the status and dignity they seek and do not deserve. It confers on them a kind of legitimacy. If they qualify as 'belligerents', should they not receive the protection of the laws of war? This was something Irish terrorists always demanded, and were properly refused. But their demands helped to muddy the waters, and were given wide credence among their supporters in the United States. But to use, or rather to misuse the term 'war' is not simply a matter of legality, or pedantic semantics. It has deeper and more dangerous consequences. To declare that one is 'at war' is immediately to create a war psychosis that may be totally counter-productive for the objective that we seek. It will arouse an immediate expectation, and demand, for spectacular military action against some easily identifiable adversary, preferably a hostile state; action leading to decisive results. The use of force is no longer seen as a last resort, to be avoided if humanly possible, but as the first, and the sooner the better. The press demands immediate stories of derring-do, filling their pages with pictures of weapons, ingenious graphics, and contributions from retired service officers. Any suggestion that the best strategy is not to use military force at all is dismissed as 'appeasement' by ministers whose knowledge of history is about on a par with their skill at political management. ################################################ # WHY DID THE AFGHAN CAMEL CROSS
THE ROAD?George Bush: We told it. You got 2 choices. You get haffa billion or you get bommed. 2. HAS BUSH TRAPPED AMERICA IN VIETNAM WAR 2001? 'Our leaders gambled that the unpopularity of the regime would enable bombing to bring about the Taliban's rapid collapse' Arthur Schlesinger, Pulitzer prize-winning US political historian The national mood in the United States is one of apprehension - apprehension over the military stalemate in Afghanistan; apprehension over the anthrax eruption in America; apprehension, as yet incipient but nevertheless visible, over the competence of our national leadership. As Senator Robert Graham of Florida, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, put it this week: "The American people are already at a high state of anxiety.'' I would emphasise apprehension and anxiety; not panic or hysteria or despair, and certainly not disunity over the administration's objectives - the punishment of Osama bin Laden and al-Qa'ida and the campaign to stop international terrorism. On this, nearly all Americans are agreed. Apprehension and anxiety spring rather from the fact that the 11 September outrages have created a sense of personal vulnerability previously unknown to most Americans. Even Pearl Harbor, though far more consequential in most ways than the attack on the World Trade Centre, did not produce comparable feelings of personal vulnerability. After all, we knew on 7 December 1941 who the enemy was; the attack took place on a remote island in the mid-Pacific; the target was American naval power, not civilians going about their daily business. Today the enemy is in the shadows; he strikes in cities well known to every American; and he turns the most familiar conveniences, the airplane and the letter, into vicious weapons - and ordinary people are the target. As Vice-President Dick Cheney has observed, this may be the only foreign war in US history in which more Americans will be killed at home than abroad. Already almost a tenth of the Americans killed in 10 years in Vietnam were killed in New York on a single day. Meanwhile the popular expectation of a knockout blow against the Taliban has been cruelly disappointed. Remember the optimistic remarks a couple of weeks back about the way American bombs were eviscerating the enemy? This has given way to sombre comment about the Taliban's dogged resistance. Evidently our leaders gambled on the supposition that the unpopularity of the regime would mean the bombing would bring about the Taliban's rapid collapse. And they also seem to have assumed that it would not be too difficult to put together a post-Taliban government. This was a series of misjudgments. The Joint Chiefs may have been misled by the apparent success - now that Milosevic has been defeated - of the bombing campaign in Kosovo. Perhaps they should have reflected on Vietnam. We dropped more tons of explosives on that hapless country than we dropped on all fronts during the Second World War, and still we could not stop the Vietcong. Vietnam should have reminded our generals that bombing has only a limited impact on decentralised, undeveloped, rural societies. Bombing has potent appeal to any American administration because it minimises American casualties. But bombs also kill enemy civilians. Civilian deaths are mobilising pro-bin Laden volunteers throughout the Moslem world. The trick we have not yet learned is how to fight terrorism without creating new terrorists. So now, with air power failing to achieve the expected result, we gloomily contemplate turning loose the Northern Alliance, a dubious collection of tribesmen, opportunists and mercenaries, backed by the Russians and detested by the Pushtuns, Afghanistan's largest ethnic group, and by Pakistan, a crucial ally. If the Northern Alliance fails to overthrow the Taliban, we may have to send in our own ground forces. Do we do that next month in face of the grim Afghan winter, Moslem religious holidays and unexploded land mines? Or do we wait for spring? In any event, a quagmire looms ahead. As for the post-Taliban regime, this has vanished into a gruesome tangle of tribal feuds and rivalries. The American military's conflicting accounts of Afghanistan have damaged the Joint Chiefs' credibility. Contradictory accounts of perils on the home front have wrought the same collateral damage. Nearly every day newspapers carry stories about new and mysterious instances of anthrax poisoning. Behind anthrax looms the spectre of smallpox, which, unlike anthrax poisoning, is contagious. Since smallpox was supposedly beaten a quarter of a century ago, very few people today have active vaccinations, and smallpox vaccine is in very short supply. If terrorists can find ways of unleashing a smallpox plague, it might be like the Black Death, which ravaged Europe in the 14th century…. http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=102701 # WHY DID THE AFGHAN CAMEL CROSS THE ROAD? Robert Anton Wilson: Because the Illuminati had manipulated him into Reality Tunnel #23. Fnord P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C SUN NOV 18 The Love'n'Peace Ramble Against War. Full-on, full regalia, the Hippies Smoked The Russians Out Of Afghanistan, we've just won the Drug War, now Let's Smoke the Americans Out of Afghanistan too!! PRIZE FOR BEST BANNER - an ounze of best afghani (it sez here) 12noon Assemble Hyde Park/Speakers Corner. Organised by Stop The War Coalition (ARROW, SWP etc etc). 07951 235915 P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C E P E A C # Osama Bin Laden: If , All Hail Allah, it crossed, then it was an infidel camel whose death is guaranteed WHAT 'FREEDOMS' DOES AMERICA UPHOLD? Within its borders, America upholds the freedoms of speech, religion, thought; of artistic expression, food habits, sexual preferences (well, to some extent) and many other exemplary, wonderful things. Outside its borders, America upholds its freedom to dominate, humiliate and subjugate - usually in the service of its real religion, the 'free market'. So when the US government christens a war 'Operation Infinite Justice', or 'Operation Enduring Freedom', we in the Third World feel more than a tremor of fear. Because we know that Infinite Justice for some means Infinite Injustice for others. And Enduring Freedom for some means Enduring Subjugation for others. The International Coalition Against Terror is largely a cabal of the richest countries in the world. Between them, they manufacture and sell almost all of the world's weapons, they possess the largest stockpile of weapons of mass destruction-chemical, biological and nuclear. They have fought the most wars, account for most of the genocide, subjection, ethnic cleansing and human rights violations in modern history, and have sponsored, armed, and financed untold numbers of dictators and despots. Between them, they have worshipped, almost deified, the cult of violence and war. For all its appalling sins, the Taliban just isn't in the same league. # Buddha: If you ask this question, you deny your own camel-nature. Assassins Versus Crusaders? The information here on The Assassins, The Crusaders and the parallels with the current demonising of 'Moslem Fundamentalism' is just too spooky to ignore..... http://www.enterprisemission.com/tower2.htm A A A A A A A A A A ADVERTISING G G G G G G G G G G lookin' fer a nice underground radio station ;) http://www.hype.fm/ A A A A A A A A A A ADVERTISING G G G G G G G G G G san francisco THURS NOV 8 Direct Action / Creative Resistance!! Millions of innocent people are about to starve to death, and the media doesn't care!! WE MUST ACT NOW!! We demand that the US STOP THE BOMBING while food aid is delivered! 3 - 10pm, 1001 Van Ness Ave at O'Farrell (in front of KRON) 415.675.5826 stopstarvation@yahoo.com for flier and summary of the issue in english and spanish:- http://www.sect.tc/n08/ #. Fox Mulder - You saw it cross the road with your own eyes. How many more camels have to cross before you believe it? I just gotta say Fraser, in my best english (for a frenchman) how come no one is giving Blair a hard time, I think he is worse than Bush. He is so eager to get us into wars (and what is his justification this time? something that didn't even affect the people he is supposed to represent, ha). It seems like he wants to play with his soldiers and weapons (never trust anyone who you can see the whites of the eyes all round the iris - it is a mark of insanity, and rabid dogs!!!) and is impervious to any notions of compassion and humanity. It also makes me wonder who he owes.... Compare it to the French reaction! ie we sympathise, but we are an independent nation and will not act rashly etc... keep it up bro! not the unreal IRA, MOSSAD, ETA, Bader-Meinhof subversives cos I dont need no SEMTEX, C-4 & rocket launcher bollocks 4 Colonel Gaddafi's birthday. love sweet pea. (this is auto-matically added to all my emails, and if we all do it we could keep triggering off Big Brother's global Echelon spying machinery till it has a heart attack heh heh:) andre / marseilles # Timothy Leary: Because that's the only kind of trip the Establishment would let it take. all right, this might just be an update of something most of us have seen before and, to be honest, we haven't established that the plane number really was this BUT, SO WE R TOLD, the flight number of the second WTC plane was Q33NY if u copy & paste that into Word, make it size 36, change the font to Wingdings, you'll getta real shock # Karl Marx: It was a historical inevitability SCIENTISTS HOLD 'RAVE " FOR DRUGGED MICE Scientists have been giving mice drugs and playing them records by The Prodigy. They wanted to test how music affects the way methamphetamines are absorbed by the body. And what they found is that music with a strong beat increases the damaging effects of the drug - even a piece by Bach can do it, though nearly double the number of mice died during and after The Prodigy. Mice given loud music and a placebo instead of speed fall asleep during the "rave". Mice on methamphetamine alone, but without the music, charge around for half an hour, lapse into some kind of repetitive behaviour, then charge around for another half-hour, becoming normal again. But four of the 40 mice exposed to Bach died during or after the experiment, while seven of the 40 Prodigy mice died. Jenny Morton, of Cambridge University, said: "It seems that listening to pulsatile music strengthens the toxic effects of methamphetamine." I THINK THEREFORE I AMBIENT? Mice given speed and both kinds of music had "more disturbing behaviour" - remaining in one spot but swaying backwards and forwards. # Tony Blair: We have to be tough on crossing and tough on the causes of crossing. __________________________________________________________________ CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN!!! PASS THIS ON Robert Redford Campaigns About Another War Dear American Friend, It is understandable that we Americans feel an almost reflexive need for unanimity in trying times like these. As a nation, we are rightly consumed with responding to the terrorist attacks on September 11th. But, at some point -- and I think we're beginning to get there -- we need to take a long-term view also. Really important domestic issues facing us before all of this happened still have the same dimension and consequence. But it's much more difficult to debate them in the aftermath of Sept. 11th, unfortunately, because disagreement is sometimes characterized as unpatriotic during times such as these and open. The gravity of the current situation is not lost on any of us and we all want to do what's right to insure our national security. It is with this in mind that I felt compelled to write you today. A handful of determined U.S. senators, encouraged by the White House, are arguing that national security requires the Senate to rush a pro-oil energy bill into law. They have vowed to hold up normal Senate business and attach the bill to every piece of legislation that comes to the Senate floor. So far they have failed in what The Boston Globe is calling "oil opportunism." But with President Bush himself now calling for rushed passage of this disastrous bill, intense pressure is building on Senate leaders to succumb to the emotions of the moment. Using our national tragedy as an opportunity to advance the narrow interests of the oil lobby would not be in the best interest of the public. This bill, already passed by the House, would not only open the Arctic Refuge to oil rigs, it would also pave the way for energy companies to exploit and destroy pristine areas of Greater Yellowstone and other gems of our natural heritage. As important, it would do nothing to address energy security. I'm asking for your immediate help in stopping this legislation. After reading my letter I hope you'll forward this letter to your friends and colleagues. Last spring, the Bush administration and some members of Congress said we had to pass the president's oil-friendly energy bill because we were facing the most serious energy crisis since 1973. But here we are, a mere six months later, and the energy crisis has vanished. Due to a slowing economy and falling demand, the prices for gasoline, natural gas and home heating oil have plunged. Meanwhile, the much-feared "summer of blackouts" in California never happened, largely because consumers and businesses made dramatic cuts in energy use by launching the most successful statewide conservation campaign in history. With no energy crisis to scare us with, the administration and pro-oil senators are now promoting their "Drill the Arctic" plan under the guise of national security and energy independence. Don't buy it. It would take ten years to bring Arctic oil to market, and when it arrives it would never equal more than two percent -- a mere drop in the bucket -- of our annual consumption. Our nation simply doesn't have enough oil to drill our way to energy independence or even to affect world oil prices. We possess a mere 3 percent of the world's oil reserves, but we consume fully 25 percent of the world's oil supply. We could drill the Arctic Refuge, Greater Yellowstone, and every other wildland in America and we'd still be importing oil, paying worldwide prices for domestic oil, and still vulnerable to wild gyrations in price and supply. As The Atlanta Constitution put it: "Burning through our tiny oil supply faster will not make our country more secure." I'd go further: increasing our dependence on oil, whether from the Persian Gulf or the Arctic Refuge, practically guarantees national *insecurity. And we know that it will bring more habitat destruction, oil spills, air pollution, and global warming. The public health implications will be devastating. If our nation wants to declare energy independence, then we have no choice but to reduce our appetite for oil. There's no other way. We need to rely on smarter and cleaner ways to power our economy. We have the technology right now to increase fuel economy standards to 40 miles per gallon. If we phased in that standard by 2012 we'd save 15 times more oil than the Arctic Refuge is likely to produce over 50 years. We could also give tax rebates for existing hybrid gas-electric vehicles that get as much as 60 mpg We could invest in public transit. We could launch an "Apollo Project" to bring fuel cells and hydrogen fuel down to earth, allowing us to begin the mass production of vehicles that emit only water as a by-product. The list goes on and on. In this climate of national trauma and war, it is up to us -- the people -- to ensure that reason prevails and our natural heritage survives intact. The preservation of irreplaceable wildlands like the Arctic Refuge and Greater Yellowstone is a core American value. I have never been more appreciative of the wisdom of that value than during these past few weeks. When we are filled with grief and unanswerable questions it is often to nature that we turn for refuge and comfort. In the sanctuary of a forest or the vastness of the desert or the silence of a grassland, we can touch a timeless force larger than ourselves and our all-too-human problems. This is where the healing begins. Those who would sell out this natural heritage -- this spiritual heritage -- would destroy a wellspring of American strength. What's worse, their rush to exploit the wildness that feeds our souls won't do a thing to solve our energy problems. There are plenty of sensible and patriotic ways to guarantee our nation's energy security, but destroying the Arctic Refuge is not one of them. Please tell this to your senators! They urgently need to hear it because the pressure is on to move this pro-oil bill to a vote in the next few weeks. It will take you only a minute to send them an electronic message from NRDC's SaveBioGems website. Go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/index.asp?src=ab0110a And please forward this message to your family and friends. Millions of Americans need to know about this cynical attempt to promote the interests of energy companies at the expense of everyone else. Sincerely yours, Robert Redford # Ludwig Wittgenstein: The possibility of "crossing" was encoded into the objects "camel" and "road", and circumstances came into being which caused the actualization of this potential occurrence. WORMS ~~~~: 4 worms were placed in 4 separate jars - a jar of alcohol - a jar of cigarette smoke - a jar of sperm - a jar of soil After 24 hours, these were the results: - worm in alcohol - dead - worm in cigarette smoke - dead - worm in sperm - dead - worm in soil - alive - CONCLUSION: people who drink, smoke and have sex won't get worms. # Machiavelli: So that its subjects will view it with admiration, as a camel which has the daring and courage to boldly cross the road, but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of virtue? In such a manner is the princely camel's dominion maintained. OLIVE TREES IN THE MIDDLE EAST "In some Palestinian towns, Israeli soldiers and settlers have even destroyed the olive trees that have been the economic and ecological basis of the town for centuries past and must be for decades to come. In the village of Hares, for example, the Israeli rabbis of Rabbis for Human Rights found 1500 olive trees destroyed - many in places far from where they could have been used as cover for violence. "These olive trees were not decorative. They were the life-support of the village. Some of the trees were hundreds of years old, having produced for this village oil and olives for all that time. Each one of them paid the cost of year after year of schooling for a child. Or the cost of a room built for a growing child. Or a dowry for a girl about to be married. So we at the Shalom Center are joining in an act of people-to-people peace-making . . . to help purchase new trees for several Palestinian villages, and then to replant these trees and help meet the humanitarian, human-rights, and environmental needs of these villages while the trees regrow." Rabbis for Human Rights needs monetary support as well as people to help spread the word about the program. For more information: http://www.shalomctr.org/html/peace27.html #. Werner Heisenberg: We are not sure which side of the road the camel was on, but it was moving very fast. Nostradamus wrote some stuff about 'the powers of east and west shall meet in the sea and a terrible conflict shall ensue, with FIRE IN THE SKY the world will quake at such terrible consequences' (this is NOT a word for word translation so don't quote me, but the memory of the quatrain surfaced after many years to remind us that - THESE EVENTS HAVE BEEN FORSEEN). Not just by Nostradamus but I'm sure by the Indian elders who sold Manhattan for twenty dollars to the colonial powers whose towers represent the start of a process that took over the world's resources and control them from a single site (WTC). It's a return to LOCALISATION!!!!!! My prayers go out to the innocent victims of national policy, not just Americans but anti-Americans whose lives were displaced by globalisation and economic greed, who now dance the dance of sadistic retribution, not a happy jig. No matter how many died in the US, more have died under the unfair practices of multinational companies who operate out of such buildings as WTC. Remember these companies manufacture killing devices and earthly hazards for profit in many of the affected countries around the world. The east and west of nostradamus is not just merely the eastern and western super powers but of right/left logic. That of emotional commitment versus intellectual propriety. The murderers have executed themselves and become martyrs to their own people. those responsible are in fact policy makers and leaders of the world's nations. The time is right for a new era of understanding and, as the US rebuilds itself, I hope that it's arrogant attitudes towards non Americans is humbled. And to the Muslim state i wish to stay that god is in all of us, and is in the ground beneath our feet, including in lower Manhattan, weather it is known as Allah, Buddha, Christ or just nothing (Zen) This was also gods work, to wake us up TO ourselves and each other. OM TAT SAT love and lightningbolts matt catt #Jack Nicholson: 'Cause it fucking wanted to. THAT'S the fucking reason. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A ADVERTISING G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G for all your entheogenic and shamanic needs the Kykeon website (http://www.kykeon.co.uk) has just been launched. 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The melodies that these notes can play out is called ‘matter,’ and when these melodies create symphonies, that’s called the ‘universe’. Now the harmonies that these strings can make are the laws of physics. However, when these strings move, they warp space and time around them exactly as Einstein had predicted. So even if Einstein had never lived, we would have discovered Einstein’s theory of general relativity as a by-product of string theory. String theory however is defined in ten dimensional hyperspace, which some physicists once thought was science fiction. How could it be that we live in a ten dimensional universe? Well the skeptics hardly laugh anymore. Around the world, the nation’s leading physicists are scrambling to learn this bizarre theory that may allow us to read the mind of God, called string theory, which says that music resonating through hyperspace may be the mind of God WE HAVE LEPTONS, HADRONS, CAPAMEZONS AND TAOMEZONS QUESTION: In Africa they have a term called ubuuntu. Bishop Tutu describes it as the concept that all of mankind is linked… that, in fact, if we hurt one person, we all get hurt. In relation to Einstein’s unified field theory, is Western science and our society - actually approaching truths that so-called primitive cultures hold as self evident? They're talking about holism. They talk about the whole - not the reductionism of Western science. Well, let’s take a look at reductionism. On one hand, it has yielded tremendous benefits. We were able to understand the nature of the atom. Which gave us chemistry. We were able to crack the atom apart and be able to understand the nature of the stars. Then we probed deeper and deeper and, when we shattered the atoms apart, we got the quark model, and it seemed like a victory over holism. But not so fast. Because, you see, we now have too many quarks. We have thousands of subatomic particles with bizarre names. We have leptons, hadrons and we have capamezons and taomezons and different kinds of particles. When I was a PhD student at University of California at Berkeley, I had to memorise hundreds of subatomic particles, and it was hard to believe that God, at a fundamental level, could be so malicious as to bedevil PhD students by forcing us to memorise the names of hundreds of particles. Then I began to think, what about a more holistic approach? Well, the irony is the quark model ran out of steam. We have 36 quarks now and we have a whole slew of leptons and neutrinos. Now, we don’t know where this quark model came from. It’s a very ugly theory. Think of getting an aardvark and a whale and a giraffe and Scotch-taping them together and calling this Nature’s supreme achievement… the highest stage of evolution! The standard model, which includes the quark model, is an ugly theory. Even its creators say it's ugly as sin. And how can we believe that the universe, which seems to be so simple and unified, can create such a horrible theory at the fundamental level? The irony is, when you look at space and time and try to unite the quarks with gravity and a fabric of space and time, then you’re literally forced to go into hyperspace - a holistic theory - a theory not just of tiny subatomic particles, but a theory of space and time, gravity, of manifold… the theory of Einstein, the power of creation itself - perhaps summarised in an equation one inch long. So you see, we shouldn’t laugh when we talk about the power of Western civilisation and the primitiveness of holistic societies because the irony of ironies is that reductionism ran out of steam. We have to go to a higher theory - a theory of hyperspace. A theory where the arena is no longer in the third dimension. The arena is the tenth dimension. An inherently holistic theory because it unites gravity with the two nuclear forces with the electromagnetic forces, which may allow us, at some point, to “read the mind of God.” http://www.greatmystery.org/montereyconference.html. #. The I Ching: Because 9 in the first place means it furthers one to have somewhere to go. No blame FRI NOV 23 BUY NOTHING DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! barclay, before i re-read your letter let me say right away that i agree with you. they were jokes. they were cheap jokes which tended in a certain political direction. that direction is virtually a given, given what the UP is all about, so we're left with the cheapness. i plead guilty, yer honner :( At 12:43 PM 10/23/01 +0100, you wrote: Hi Fraser, I've been reading your "upgrades" since 11/9 with interest, but also unfortunately with increasing alarm. Certainly you've condemned the actions of that day, but I get the impression that you think that the actions of the USA are universally bad, no matter what they do. i thot larry hagerty's piece on the difference between 'america' and 'americans' said everything that needs to be said on this subject, yes? think americans are the biggest hope for the planet, think america is the biggest threat to it, ok? the point is that I feel you weaken your arguments by distorting facts, and by using half truths. I'd even go so far as to say that you're dissembling, if I didn't already know that you want to see a fundamental change in the way the USA is governed. i'd go along with you as far as i'm much less critical of info that supports my view than vice versa. distortion absolutely not! You won't win the hearts and minds of the American people by attacking their government constantly, with hardly a good word to say about it. they don't need more compliments what they need is to take the baddest hardest look at what produced the Twin Terrors, and seize their government back b4 it participates in and stimulates another cycle of increasingly terrible events. the fate of the planet is in 'americans' hands. i'm currently thinking along the lines that we have to re-define democracy as only having a chance of working if its critics are as severe and uncompromisingly idealistic as they can be, far from me toning down my criticism, i've been wondering if we might even have to think about rewarding and acknowledging our severest critics because they stop democracy from failing. build them into the constitution, honour our critics as the front line warriors in democracy's defence! (a bit like having your security people thinking up ways of attacking your system) You seem to me to be hiding behind the idea that you're attacking the State and not the people (that's what the US is saying about its actions in Afghanistan). The American people won't see it that way, and they'll turn away from you - just as many Muslims are turning away from the words of Bush and Blair. They won't listen to you. That's a great pity, because you have some valuable points to make. i hear u, barclay. i don't want that to happen. i know i push the envelope. maybe i'm not meant ever to be a mass taste :) but work with a nucleus (a "choir" as a critic put it recently :) (i'd call it a cultural family fractal :) but i really connect with your image of me dropping psychic bomms on america. u might have really hit the nail on the head. while america drops belly-splattering explosives on afghanistan it's fondest critic drops mental ordinance on 'americans' to get off their collective ass and stop 'america'! sounds about right to me. and it looks like it's shaping up for a right wing putsch which i actually think will fail because americans and their constitution will, in the last moment, STAND UP. and ah am tellin ma amerriken frens that when you DO finly stand up as i KNOW u will then you will DEEPLY REGRET the needless suffrin that happened while you waited so long :) and i'm here as a true friend to help make that period as short as poss by hammering home just how BAD the situation in 'america' is, for 'americans'' sake! and i really mean that. Here are a few examples of what I mean :- # TERRORISTS/BAD - leadership was not elected by a majority of the people in a free and fair democratic election. US GOVERNMENT/GOOD - leadership was not elected by a majority of the people in a free and fair democratic election. I'm no apologist for the Americans. I think the current situation is largely of the States' own making, but surely you see there is a vast difference between the actions of terrorists, and those in the last USA presidential election (deeply flawed though it undoubtedly was). this was the absolutely worst of them jokes i agree, totally without any serious merit and not even very funny. i nearly took it out at the time but figured it'd probly raise a cheap titter in a few heads and why not heh heh. # TERRORISTS/BAD - using war as pretext to clamp down on dissent and undermine civil liberties. US GOVERNMENT/GOOD - using war as pretext to clamp down on dissent and undermine civil liberties. Again, I feel there's a vast difference, and that you're distorting facts. I wouldn't like to live in the States, but even more, I'd hate to live in a country controlled by terrorists, and I think most people would agree with me. The difference is obvious, surely. one part of your argument has 2 b declared redundant here. we've long established in these pages that criticism of one thing cannot be viewed as praise of another. on the overall point i stand by publishing this one. islam does it for religious reasons. we may find that distasteful but we can hardly argue that we didn't do it for the longest time ourselves. there seems to be a lot of Time-ism around these days. islam is hundreds of years younger and we were burning millions of witches at their age (EUROPE that is, america had no hand innit :) bush and the bully boys' motives are, i'd estimate, pure unadulterated greed/power with virtually no redeemable feature. # TERRORISTS/BAD - Leader has declared a holy war ('Jihad') against his 'enemies'; believes any nation not with him is against him; believes god is on his side, and that any means are justified. US GOVERNMENT/GOOD - leader has declared a holy war ('Crusade') against his 'enemies'; believes any nation not with him is against him; believes god is on his side, and that any means are justified. "Any means are justified"? Sorry, but that's clearly not true. I happen to think that the US policy is wrong and counter productive, and that it will lead to further problems, but this "war" is not being waged by them on that basis. Believe me, we'd soon know about it if it was. disagree, guv. i think 'america' is the most amoral and ruthless manifestation of brute force, venality , duplicity and cunning that this planet has ever produced, indeed it's the epitome of all that cultural development (i'd call it degeneration) and it has taught this PROFESSIONAL nihilism to violence to large pockets of the rest of the planet for its own benefit in whatever current poker game in which it was involved. that's what this war is about, and it's not just afghanistan it's everywhere, every single curtailment the real 'americans' have fought for since the '60s have been whipped away overnight. so i not only stand by this joke but am proud of it. until the Twin Terrors the most efficiently organised brutality was 'america's' monopoly. now the 'other side' has plumbed the same level of barbarity. read last week's UP on COUNTRIES AMERICA HAS BOMMED, read the Fortune mag take on Hiroshima, and reconsider what you relay feel. my sense is that, after 'america' has sunk to the next level of subhuman depravity, then it immediately looks like any other culture of the human species would have done the same at some point. i'm just not totally convinced that's true. there seems to be a natural brake, a kinda buried conscience that stops almost all people descending too far. once you make that professional and well paid and national security and brainwashed Total Commitment with all the gismos, well, some people just can't handle it and the american political structure has not been able to control or even to track it. if that doesn't change, and only 'americans' can do it, and they'll only do it when they truly realise how deep it's gone, then it's downhill from here on. You're very clever in the way you present your arguments, but in the long run you'll alienate a lot of people. In short, I don't think you're being balanced in your remarks. guilty. in my clubs i always insist that only positive healthy images ever be shown or played. i know the argument that art and life consist of light and dark but my attitude is that if u r getting 99% negativity from all the official media around, then even with 100% positive for an evening Life or Art are still UNBALANCED on the NEGATIVE side. the balance to which i'm trying to contribute is not one that's WITHIN an UPGRADE (that would just make it toothless and bland and we get more than enuff of that) but a move towards balance with the rest of the Info-Gush by balancing THAT out. Above all else, at this incredibly unstable and dangerous time, we need clear, unbiased, and truthful consideration of the entire issue. what we're putting out can obviously only be a part of that, not the whole thing. the 'consideration' of the issue is a verb that each of us must do - i'm trying to feed in the alternative information (that might be relevant to each person's making of that 'consideration') in a style that doesn't bore u with earnestness :) Anything else is simply fooling ourselves (goodness knows, we've done that long enough), speak for yourself, barclay (fraser replied immodestly, losing another 5 subscribers :) and will lead to further problems in the future. The problem is that future problems are likely to be far worse than the ones we see right now. call me an eternal optimist... to me it looks like we have arrived in the End Game - and not a minute too soon! bush is right that it's the final battle between good and ignorance (read 'evil') but what might or might not surprise him is that he's part of the ignorance, by far its most powerful and active part. where does it say in the bible: "a little knowledge, an ignorant confidence, and big guns is the most dangerous mix of all" but there i go distorting the facks agen. but seriously, barclay, answer this question honestly: where is the pocket of most seriously virulent and active ignorance on this planet? So, just a few thoughts. I hope you can see the validity of them. am going to publish this as i appreciate very much the feedback and serious thot put into it. if you'd like to reply to my points by inserting wherever u like, lemme know. Barclay Lane fraser # Ramana Maharsi: When a camel in your dream crosses a road in your dream, do you upon waking enquire into his motives? HOW TO WIN THIS WAR by Richard Kidd, an ex-military type who also served in Afghanistan's food program for a decade I have been asked how I would fight the war. This is a big question and well beyond my pay grade or expertise. And while I do not want to second guess current plans or start an academic debate, I would share the following from what I know about Afghanistan and the Afghans. First, I would give the Northern Alliance a big wad of cash so that they can buy off a chunk of the Taliban army before winter. Second, also with this cash, I would pay some guys to kill some of the Taliban leadership, making it look like an inside job to spread distrust and build on existing discord. Third, I'd support the Northern alliance with military assets, but not take it over or adopt so high a profile as to undermine its legitimacy in the eyes of most Afghans. Fourth, give massive amounts of humanitarian aid and assistance to the Afghans in Pakistan to demonstrate our goodwill and to give these guys a reason to live rather than the choice between dying of starvation or dying fighting the "infidel." Fifth, start a series of public works projects in areas not under Taliban control (much more than the press reports) again to demonstrate goodwill and that improvements come with peace. Sixth, I'd consider vary carefully before putting any female service members into Afghanistan proper - sorry, but within that culture a man who allows a woman to fight for him has zero respect, and we'll need respect to gain allies. No Afghan will work with a man who fights with women. Seventh, hold off doing anything too dramatic in the near term, keeping a low level of covert action over the winter, allowing this pressure to force open the fissions around the Taliban that were already developing. expect that they will quickly turn on themselves and on OBL. We can pick up the pieces next summer, or the summer after. Eighth, When we do "pick-up" the pieces, I'd make sure that we do so on the ground, "man to man." While I'd never want to advocate American causalities, it's essential we communicate to OBL and all others watching that we can and will "engage and destroy the enemy in close combat." Ninth, While not trying to gain or hold terrain, infantry operations against the enemy are essential. There must be no excuses after the defeat or lingering doubts in the minds of our enemies regarding American resolve, and nothing, nothing will communicate this except for ground combat. Tenth, And once this is all over, unlike in 1989, the US must provide continued long-term economic assistance to rebuild the country. Lastly, Brutality. Our opponents will not abide by the Geneva conventions. There will be no prisoners unless there's a chance they can be ransomed or prisoner-exchanged. During the war with the Soviets, videotapes were made of communist prisoners having their throats slit. We can expect our soldiers to be treated the same way. Sometime during this war I expect that we will see videos of US prisoners having their heads cut off. Our enemies will do this not only to demonstrate their "strength" to their followers, but also to cause us to overreact, to seek wholesale revenge against civilian populations and to turn this into the world-wide religious war they so desperately want. This will be a test of our will and of our character. (for further collaboration of this type of activity please read Kipling). This will not be a pretty war; it will be a war of wills, of resolve and somewhat conversely of compassion and of a character. Towards our enemies, we must show a level of ruthlessness that has not been part of our military character for a long time. But to those who are not our enemies we must show a level of compassion probably unheard of in war. We should do this not for humanitarian reasons, though there are many, but for shrewd military logic. # Vernor Vinge: Because the hyperbolic acceleration of roadcrossing technology led to a Singularity beyond which camelhood on this side of the road is unimaginable HEY! Captain, the mission is out of control..................... AT LAST ! Fraser Your words are full of and heavy with.... a ruthless truth that will not be denied. You speak from the other side of the SCREAM of consensus reality. You are a word-terrorist a keyboard-Mage that spits out human remains like soma mad mind eating mutant. The Towers are Burning.......at last! THESE MONSTERS FROM THE ID! THESE ASTRAL PLANE CRASHERS FROM HELL. THESE WAKERS OF THE DEAD... spoke to all mankind, all around the world in 80 ways, the smoke of death.......metaprogramming.... human souls like cosmic cigarettes, burning their reality into the next dimension. Death happens in an instant and then lasts forever and ever....... Amen. I am proud to call you brother so sorry so silly *** SIRIUS PETER SOL MOON # Terence McKenna: He was impelled by the backward shockwave of the Eschaton towards the self-replicating machine hens glittering hyperspatially across the road. THE MOST LIKELY TRUTH SCENARIO You can probably imagine how many conspiracy theories we get sent. While we don't rule most of them out entirely, we have to make a judgement each time, otherwise we'd bore or scare off most of our readers. We judged the Caspian Oil story to have merit and now even the mainstream media are starting to mention it everywhere. This latest, very well researched one from Dick Eastman starts with the well established fact that the 22nd, 23rd and 24th floors of the North Tower contained the New York FBI offices. And the evidence for what he regards as the Most Likely Truth Scenario is now actually buried in Ground Zero. Nevertheless, from the extensive digging he has done, the most likely perpetrators are these: 1. 2. 3. 4. 4a 4b. Peter Jennings actually did a two-day network news story on the effects of the "destroyed evidence and files" on American financial crime investigations around the world. And it was on these floors that the entire accumulation of evidence and investigation briefs on these two highly important cases were being stored. Since each of these groups has fluid, secret channels of communication through a networked integration of banking, politics, the CIA and Mossad connections, the inescapable fact is that if one of these groups was complicit the other 3 would be also! One point that had escaped me up till now was that the suicides pointed inevitably at Muslims. However, note one of Eastman's points: "These recruited hijackers need not have been Arabs - there are Croats, Serbs, Latin Americans, Iranians and any number of other victim-pool people who could have volunteered to conduct the hijacking - possibly without realising they'd 'signed on' for a suicide bombing." More revealing background information and questions at:- www.whatreallyhappened.com/ www.cam.net.uk./home/aaa315/peace/ # M.C. Escher: Are you so sure he really crossed it? Look again.. LIBERAL FUNDAMENTALIISM The West's arrogant assumption of its superiority is as intolerant as any other form of fundamentalism Madeleine Bunting War propaganda requires moral clarity - what else can justify the suffering and brutality? - so the conflict is being cast as a battle between good and evil. Both Bin Laden and the Taliban are being demonised into absurd Bond-style villains, while halos are hung over our heads by throwing the moral net wide: we are not just fighting to protect ourselves out of narrow self-interest, but for a new moral order in which the Afghans will be the first beneficiaries. The extent to which this is all being uncritically accepted is astonishing. Few gave a damn about the suffering of women under the Taliban on September 10 - now we are supposedly fighting a war for them! Even fewer knew (let alone cared) that Afghanistan was suffering from famine. Now the west is promising to solve the humanitarian crisis that it has hugely exacerbated with its bombings. What's incredible is not just the belief that you can end terrorism by taking on the Taliban, but that doing so can be elevated into a grand moral purpose - rather than it incubating a host of evils from Chechnya to Pakistan. Gullibility? Naivety? Wishful thinking? Yes, but what is also lurking here is the outline of a form of western fundamentalism. It believes in historical progress and regards the west as its most advanced manifestation. And it insists that the only way for other countries to match its achievement is to adopt its political, economic and cultural values. It is tolerant towards other cultures only to the extent that they reflect its own values - so it is frequently fiercely intolerant of religious belief and has no qualms about expressing its contempt and prejudice. At its worst, western fundamentalism echoes the characteristics it finds so repulsive in its enemy, Bin Laden: first, a sense of unquestioned superiority; second, an assertion of the universal applicability of its values; and third, a lack of will to understand what is profoundly different from itself. This is the shadow side of liberalism, and it has periodically wreaked havoc around the globe for over 150 years. It is detectable in the writings of great liberal thinkers such as John Stuart Mill, and emerged in the complacent self-confidence of mid-Victorian Britain. But its roots go back further to its inheritance of Christianity's claim to be the one true faith. The US founding recipe of puritanism and enlightenment bequeathed a profound sense of being morally good. This superiority, once allied to economic and technological power, underpinned the worst excesses of colonialism, as it now underpins the activities of multinational corporations and the IMF's structural adjustment programmes. Recognising this, however, need not be the prelude to an onslaught on liberalism - just the crucial imperative of recognising that, like all systems of human thought, liberalism has weaknesses as well as strengths. We need to remember this: in the heat of battle and panicky fear of terrorism, liberal strengths such as tolerance, humility and a capacity for self-criticism are often the first victims. In all systems of human thought, there are contradictions that advocates prefer to gloss over. One of liberalism's most acute is between its claim to tolerance and its hubristic claim to universality, which Berlusconi's comments on the superiority of western civilisation brought embarrassingly to the fore. It was the sort of thing many privately think, but are too polite to say, argues John Lloyd in this week's New Statesman. He owns up with refreshing honesty that in the conflict between Islam and Christianity: "Their values, or many of them, contradict ours. We think ours are better." Once this kind of hubris is out in the open, one can more easily argue with it. These aren't just academic arguments for the home front before the cameras start rolling on the exodus of refugees into Pakistan. September 11 and its aftermath launched both an aggressive reassertion and a thoughtful re-examination of our culture and its values. Both will have a lasting impact on our relations with the non-western world. It's that aggressive reassertion that smacks of fundamentalism. Political philosopher Bhikhu Parekh starts from the premise that "the grandeur and depth of human life is too great to be captured in one culture". That each culture nurtures and develops some dimension of being human, but in that process it misses out others, and that progress will always come from dialogue between cultures. "We are all prisoners of our subjectivity," argues Parekh, and that is true of us individually and collectively, so we need others to expose our blindnesses and to increase our understanding of our humanity. Parekh argues that liberalism is right to assert that there are universal moral principles (such as the rights of women, free speech and the right to life), but wrong to insist there is only one interpretation of those principles and that that is its own. Rights come into conflict and every culture negotiates different trade-offs between them. To understand those trade-offs is sometimes complex and difficult. But no one culture has cracked the prefect trade-off. There is a huge amount we can learn from Islam in its social solidarity, its appreciation of the collective good and the generosity and strength of human relationships. Islamic societies are grappling with exactly the same challenge as the west - how to balance freedom and responsibility - and we need each other's help, not each other's brands of fundamentalism. If we are asking Islam to stamp out their fundamentalism, we have no lesser duty to do the same. m.bunting@guardian.co.uk # T.S.Eliot: Because camels will not cease from crossing, and the end of all their crossings will be to reach the side of the road they started from, and to know it for the first time. "WITH KNOWLEDGE THAT DEATH WILL PROBABLY RESULT" A. J. Chien / Institute for Health and Social Justice US and NATO leaders offer a defense: that civilians are not being targeted. "This military plan has been put together mindful of our determination to do all we humanly can to avoid civilian casualties." Tony Blair. But there are two problems with this defence: it's not relevant, and it's not true. According to Michael Tonry, Professor of Law at the University of Minnesota, "In the criminal law, purpose and knowledge are equally culpable states of mind. An action taken with a purpose to kill is no more culpable than an action taken with some other purpose in mind but with knowledge that a death will probably result. Both are murder. Most people would find the latter killing more despicable" (Malign Neglect, p. 32). It doesn't matter whether civilians are not being targeted or not. The first wave of attacks reportedly consisted largely of "dumb" bombs dropped or launched from long distances, and even current "smart" bombs hit their targets only 70 to 80 percent of the time. So our leaders know full well that the bombs will kill innocent people, indeed admit as much ("do all we can to avoid human casualties"). By the principles of our criminal law, they are therefore just as culpable for these deaths as they would be if innocents were targeted. Similarly for the foreseeable starvation of Afghan civilians because of the bombing's disruption of humanitarian aid efforts - only in this case there are potentially millions of victims. What if the purpose is noble? One could defend the predictable deaths of civilians if it resulted from, say, shooting down an airliner in order to keep it from smashing a skyscraper. In Afghanistan the purpose is, as a New York Times correspondent puts it, "to tilt the balance of power within Afghanistan against the Taliban," put forth as a noble goal in the fight against terrorism. But recall that the Taliban does not stand accused of the terrorism of September 11. The Taliban is guilty of real crimes, but the reason we are bombing them is for refusing to hand over Osama bin Laden without seeing the evidence against him. Its punishment is to be overthrown by an equally brutal regime. Notwithstanding the headlines in US dailies, nobility is not immediately apparent, let alone anything so noble that it outweighs a great many deaths. Let's now consider whether all the targets are really military, in conjunction with some relevant international law. Under article 48 of the Geneva Conventions, "In order to ensure respect for and protection of the civilian population and civilian objects, the Parties to the conflict shall at all times distinguish between the civilian population and combatants." But the main aim of the US strikes is not military but political, to remove the Taliban from power. For all its wretchedness, the Taliban is not simply an army but a political entity, and its members largely civilians, not combatants. So the distinctions of article 48 evidently have not been heeded: many of the targets hit, such as Taliban headquarters and other buildings in Kabul and Kandahar, would seem to count as "civilian objects". Then there is article 51: "Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited...[such as]... an attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated." And similarly we have the Nuremberg Charter, which classes as war crimes any "violations of the laws or customs of war which include... wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity." Are there violations here? Among the targets so far are airports, communication facilities, electrical plants, government buildings, houses - all attacked for a political purpose. After a building that housed UN de-mining workers was destroyed, the UN appealed to the US to protect civilians in its military strikes: in less polite terms, to obey international law mandating such protection. #. King Lear: As roads to wanton camels are we to the gods; they cross us for their sport. wOrZgUd urgent virus warning NOT, repeat NOT a hoax On September 11 a virtually unstoppable super-virus was released into the world and is making its way around the planet at a very great speed. Known as wOrZgUd it has already wreaked untold damage, and has the potential to permanently affect the warranty on planet Earth. You must act quickly! REPORTED INFECTION EXAMPLES Believing there is 'evidence sufficient to bring about a prosecution' Being unaware of the links between the CIA, Taliban & Osama Bin Laden Not knowing about the proposed oil pipeline route through Afghanistan and its alternative through the Balkans Not being aware that 'collateral damage' means innocent men women & children Not linking 'cheap goods' with extreme exploitation Thinking that two wrongs can make a right Not being aware that this all happens with our implicit consent DESCRIPTION. WoOrZgD works initially by installing the fee-er trojan. Once installed it can be difficult to remove, and starts to work straight away opening your gullibility port and disabling the discrimination(tm) and compassion(tm) routines leaving you wide open to believe anything that is passed off as news. Once the fee-er trojan is installed the main virus will take over rendering you unable to function properly. Most people will then experience a wetware 'switch off', due to seriously reduced compassion levels. The WoOrZgD virus is causing grave concern in technology circles because it has crossed the boundaries of e-reality to infect world media, politicians and frighteningly most of the rest of the western mind. You only have to look without proper attention at a newspaper, TV or Internet site and the trojan is installed. It is spread indiscriminately by several means including fear, lies, gossip, unsubstantiated rumour and so-called experts. Thankfully a patch is available (see details below) that will destroy completely the fee-er trojan by closing the gullibility port (23235) and reinforcing the luurve and discrimination routines. PATCH INSTRUCTIONS. Download the patch from any of these trusted sites. Installation is automatic once you realise how badly you were infected, although some will find it difficult, having advanced versions of UNAWARE(tm), or SELFISH(tm) installed; http://www.parallel-youniversity.com/ http://www.uk.indymedia.org/ http://www.emperors-clothes.com/ http://www.copvcia.com/ http://www.schnews.org.uk/ http://www.corpwatch.org/ http://www.urban75.co.uk/ http://www.zmag.org/ http://www.indymedia.org/ http://www.gn.apc.org/ http://www.agp.org/ http://www.critical-mass.org/ www.gn.apc.org/pmhp/ehippies/high-index.html http://www.resist.org.uk/ http://www.freespeech.org/ http://www.infoshop.org/ http://www.disinfo.com/ http://www.resist.org.uk/ http://www.spunk.org/ http://www.wombleaction.mrnice.ne/ http://www.cyber-rights.org/ http://www.corporatewatch.org.uk/ http://www.aseed.net/ www.xs4all.nl/~ceo http://www.alternewswire.com/ http://www.alternet.org/ http://www.silentmajority.co.uk/ http://www.freeyourbrain.org/ http://www.rense.com/ WARNING: Once you start to download this patch you must upgrade your discrimination routines to be able to decide for yourself where truth (or at least an approximation of truth) lies. Sorry, can't help you there, but the best advice available so far is to have love and peace in your heart and don't worry. The following list of websites is not exhaustive, nor guaranteed to make you happy, you wouldn't want US telling you how to think as well would you? # if u believe in democracy, you believe in the full range of information being available, so you might be interested in ISLAMONLINE where there's some decent overviews from the "other" side:- http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml and for details on hacking in the middle east and south asia.... http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/171217.html THE CHARGE OF THE DARK BRIGADE The scoop so far .... Simply put: the options that were traded are still being traced, but it seems that associates of the Carlysle group keep popping up with alarming regularity.... Basic research has shown that The Carlysle Group's a group with overlapping sub groups that feature Defense investors, old school CIA Black-op ghouls, Al-quieda associates & others that appear to be in conflict at first glance but have some common agendas.... & many links in the past... Anyway it seems that details will be coming to light soon.... HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT: Check links between Carlysle & the Unocal Afghan pipeline project... you may find some surprises there! Oh well, we seem hell bent on redoing the charge of the light brigade (Charge of the Dark Brigade, perhaps?) amazing how people are forgetful of history... even when they make a movie out of it! `Anyone who thinks that Farmers with guns cannot defeat a superpower has not read American History... After all, that describes the American revolution!' - Bill Maher A Luta Continua, stefan / in america # Martin Luther King, Jr..- I envision a world where all camels will be free to cross the road without having their motives called into question. upcoming peace protests please forward! SAT NOV 10 http://www.cnduk.org/ TUESDAYS WEDNESDAYS SUN NOV 18 The Love'n'Peace Ramble Against War. Full-on, full regalia, the Hippies Smoked The Russians Out Of Afghanistan, we've just won the Drug War, now Let's Smoke the Americans Out of Afghanistan too!! PRIZE FOR BEST BANNER. 12noon Assemble Hyde Park/Speakers Corner. Organised by Stop The War Coalition (ARROW, SWP etc etc). 07951 235915 london SUN NOV 25 FILM AND TALK BY GITA SAHSAL. PART OF SPES PROG THE LIBRARY, CONWAY HALL, RED LION SQ, WC.1. 11am http://www.ethicalsoc.org.uk/ YOU 2611 Grandpa - In my day, we didn't ask why the camel crossed the road. Someone told us the camel crossed the road, and that was good enough for us. |